A policy has to be written and has to apply uniformly to everyone in similar circumstances. Kentucky's Republican governor has appointed former NFL player Derrick Ramsey as secretary of the Education and Workforce Development . Mane Richardson is a hypocrite did he not wanted Mike Vick at one pointSMH. This is funny. Switch to the light mode that's kinder on your eyes at day time. As one of the fastest players in the NFL, Mike Wallace puts fear in opposing secondaries. Why risk losing a commercial deal or something over a tatt. tattoos drmonkeyarmy says: For someone like Newton, whom Richardson said has athletic ability unlike anything that I have seen in quite a few years, Richardson presumably wants him to do nothing that would potentially alienate the mainstream paying customers. A player on a team is a product you market with a certain image it wishes to promote and portrayand you want the face of it to be as clean as a whistle. I find nothing as silly as when people try to compare playing in the NFL to a regular job. Seriously? Aug 24, 2011 6:29 AM While my personal preference is in alignment with Richardson, I am not ok with the implication that it is a requirement. (Ive always made sure my tattoos can be covered up when the need arises). And if I got them, and suddenly was let go, can I really say my rights have been infringed upon? ahI remember when America used to be alot more about personal freedom (about 10-12 years ago) and less about conforming to the new corporate america that is now in control. This is pretty standard. Is hard reset only way to salvage Jets QB dilemma? There are 31 other that might want to employ me, so its your choice sir! The reason he does not wear any tattoos is that his father has not allowed him to wear. I wouldnt. The Liverpool star has decided not to wear any tattoos. Even Jerry Jones is smarter than that. The main reason Ronaldo does not have tattoos is that he donates blood regularly. That is fine. my issue is this: sure companies can dictate how you show up and act at work, i get that. Tattoos and piercings are a little different, if theyre covered (or removed), when in uniform, I dont think they shouldnt be an issue. Take Donald Driver for examplehe wears two big earrings and it looks like (from a quick google image search) he has some tattoos on his arms. Both of my sister-in-laws kids fathers (dont even get me started) have MULTIPLE face tattoos (they also dont have a GED or a diploma, or a job between them-again, dont get me started). This is the NFL. Better keep him away from LameBron James then. I am the biggest Panthers fan and Cam Newtons most staunch supporter(and he needs it in Charlotte), since his first game against Clemson last year. I commend Richardson for saying what is on his mind and being upfront with Cam Newton. You are the biggest herd of sheep I have ever seen. You bring in the best people to help you win. This interview took place BEFORE the draft. Fans may be the lifeblood of the NFL, but theyre going to be there regardless. More people think the owners have the right to tell a guy if he can get tattoos and piercings or not? He interviewed for a sales position with a company, and showed up at the interview with an earring. successful business owners in general (not the rule) tend to be type A personalities that think because they are the boss they can control everything. They trade 90% of their drafted prospects anyway, but the guys they do bring up go along because that is the standard in the locker room amongst the veterans. employees do have rights. On the other hand, the fact that THIS was the first thing the owner asked his new player about may show why this franchise has gone downhill so quickly. Any job like that is going to have image standards and moral terpitude clauses. While I disagree with Richardson on many many things. It isnt illegal for the boss to discriminate against people with tattoos or piercings. Business owners (and the NFL is a business) have a right to do so. This isnt a matter of an owner telling a player how to dress and act; its about a businessman maximizing his products marketability. NFL QB with tattoos shouldn't be Teams should let players know what they expect form their players, and if the players get tatoos then they should know that their owner frowns on it. Cast a vote below. New York Yankees veteran left-handed reliever Aroldis Chapman was placed on the 15-day injured list Saturday because of an infected wound he got from a recent tattoo procedure, the club announced. If you had something worth 500 million dollars, would you be worried what any of the posters on PFT thought? The sneaker features the fan-favorite "Shattered Backboard" colorway, with white leather on the base and black. That could be construed to be a health and safety issue, particularly in a contact sport. 5. A bigger issue (in my mind) is that an owner shouldnt be able to selectively enforce any policy on any one employee. Only one of the the top two players in franchise history was inked up and down the arm. I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. Im sure a bunch of guys of similar appearance felt it they just sounded reasonable when they fought to maintain slavery and to prevent womens basic rights (like owning property or voting) as well. Personal individuality and freedoms are being taken more and more by corporations that see their workforce as disposable and easily replaceable, hence, they believe they can tell you what to think, who to be, what you do with your body, they monitor what you say on facebook, twitter, and other social media in order to try to stifle personal opinions and thoughts. Especially one that isnt uniformly applied, to all positions, teams, etc. This mentality is being shoved down all of americas work force as Unions are being forced out. Be sure to also read best tattoo ideas and designs for football lovers. What this article reveals to me is that at some point in Richardsons thought process, it occurred to him that a BLACK QB will be leading his team and he wants to make sure that that potential team leader kept his appearance a certain way. Being drafted by a team does not give Cam his only option look at Eli Manning he was not originally drafted by the Giants. Allen Iverson crapped on all of the hard work of Jordan, Bird and Magic. I dont think so. I have to side with Richardson on this one. This is no different than someone going to work for a store that required a certain presentation.thats what the owner wants.his team.if Newton doesnt like it, he doesnt have to play! If Mr. Richardson wants to pay me the kind of money hes paying Cam, he can tell me how to walk, how to eat my food and how to kiss my wife. Cam does not have an issue with it. Of course, if Richardson keeps writing checks like he has these past few months, Im sure those offended players could get over it. If Jerry wants the face of the Panthers to appear clean-cut, thats his right. Im a banker. How many would just harbor a disdain and not address it? If Cam newton goes out and does get them, and his contract gets termed, welcome to the real world. You must appeal to your demographic. Well give you the last word on this one. Newton is going to be the face of the franchise, and this is Richardsons franchise. If Newton doesnt like the expectations Richardson has placed on him, then he could have held out or asked for a trade. You can. However, there is a middle ground..no visible tattoos. Aug 24, 2011 8:24 AM But he would be smart to play along. Arent there baseball teams that dictate whether a player can grow a beard? . Richardson, a former teammate of Johnny Unitas with the Baltimore Colts and the first ex-NFL player since George Halas to own a team, was awarded the Panthers franchise in 1993. The 5-time Ballon dOr winner is not really interested in tattoos. Someone tell Jerry no whiskey and well see how he likes that. However, what Cam does with his body outside the realm of being in shape, keeping himself healthy and making sure he is prepared to lead the team effectively, is none of the owners business. Its a legitimate choice. Michael Redd 12-26-2008, 05:39 PM #38 TMAC-RAPTORS Sharpshooter Join Date Oct 2008 Posts 2,173 Re: Name 10 current black players without Got it. Thankfully, the tattoos didn't stop 25-year-old Kaepernick from getting an NFL job. Personally, I hate tattoos. A sign of maturity would be to not get the tats to appease the owner and not really give a crap about it either. It is completely up to the owner how his team looks, just as it is in any business. Okay so I agree with the whole no visible tattoos in the normal workplace but the NFL is a lot different you dont apply for a team like you do in a normal job youre DRAFTED so I think the players can look however they want to and not have to pay the price because they got selected to a team with a strict coach. I am 34, but todays generation has gone hog wild with this tattoo craze and it needs to stop, or at least slow down. In 2014, tattoos returned with "Madden NFL 15" for just one player: Colin Kaepernick. There are enough teams that dont care about tattoos and piercings that I dont think that will be Newtons issue, assuming he has the make-up to live up to his athletic talent. Is a tattoo unprofessional? The BOSS had certain standards for the Yankees when it came to facial hair. The easy solution is to remove non-visible piercings when you put on the uniform. Nikola Jokic. The most successful franchise in the history of sports: Yankees have been doing that for years. In this country we have the freedom to make bad decisions. It also seems to say more than we own your services and borders on we own you. I didnt know Jerry Richardson was a Michelle Bachmann backer, - Kudos to Cam for being well dressed and respectable to a potential owner. Hell, even the military is getting picking about where they want their Marines, soldiers, airmen or sailors to get tats. Big Cat Richardson said he was aggressive in FREE AGENCY- Ha, signed NO ONE NEW-ran off Julius Peppers whom Chicago loves and traded for Gregg Olson which is not a free agency signing To dictate what a person can do is ok if you dont sell and make your HUGE PROFITS from Grease filled Bonjangles doublely fried chicken & Hardees Big Fat burgers which is cloggin up arteries in the south causing heart attacks & OBEeSITY- And he basically didnt get crap for his hardass stand in the CBA Cam Newton must be thinkin your players suck and no wonder this team sucks- he is smoke and mirrors- what he gonna say when they go 1-15? This is no different than someone going to work for a store that required a certain presentation.thats what the owner wants.his team.if Newton doesnt like it, he doesnt have to play! ************************************************** I for one do not mind a boss/owner being allowed to dictate to his employees what they can or can not wear, decorate, etc Cam was drafted and signed a contract with the team to play in Carolina. Everybody has made good points in this discussion. Iniesta played for Barcelona for 22 years. If the owners made rules about when the players where allowed to go number 2 you would probably approve. Yeah, I think owners have every right to decide whats important to them in building their brand, including whether their most marketable player has tattoos. Tattoos in sports video games face legal challenge He was up front in the pre-draft interview, when deciding whether to draft Cam. He will not fine or discipline him, but what it will do is strain the relationship between the two. You can ask them, not tell them. In the NFL a player does not have that choice and therefore should not be forced into an image he does not want. Cmon Cam show a pair! i think a TON of people are missing the point. Also, I doubt paying customers will care about any of that assuming TDs are being put on the board. Super Bowl bound Beckham is said to have as many as 86 pieces of art on his body with all different meanings. but to be able to dictate what one chooses to do with his/her body (as long as its not immoral/illegal) as an employer? Then French young sensation Kylian Mbappe refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. Each do it different, but that is the end goal. A company that owns the right to tattoos on NBA players is suing the makers of "NBA2K" for graphically representing those tattoos on NBA players without his permission. Web1. As a citizen in the corporate world, if I wear tattoos, I can rest assured there are jobs I will never be allowed to fill especially if I face the public in any capacity. No one can reasonably claim that a tattoo on a players butt affects his appearance. Instead they are becoming more involved in the Global Business that their team is and investing their personal time into the players, employees, and teams. They should call this site OldFogeyTalk instead. Would I care if he was the face of Packers? players without tattoos To everyone that keeps talking about my companys policy handbook has thisThis doesnt apply to this situation because Cam is being singled out. It wont happen if he has alot of tatoos or piercings. To: BIGTROUBLEhow dare you judge people here in such a manner? Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis However, the players that chose to go there generally are free agents and choose to acquiesce to that rule. If my memory serves me correctly Jerry was a big supporter of the rooney rule. I dont have tattoos or any piercings, and I would like to keep it that way. I always laugh at people who think that their boss cant dictate how they dress, look, etc. Richardson is just helping Cam be an entertainer and an icon.. to middle aged white people, just like himself. And such is life! Blanco hit eight homers for the Diamondbacks in just 37 games played last season. if he doesnt want him to have tqtoos or piercings, he has every right to request that. I hate tattos, that being said, if I were Cams friend, I would be advising him to go out and get some ink, ASAP. It happens in many different workplaces. But I bet its not always the case with sponsors and advertisers and the business that pay to be affiliated with the team. Tattooed Football Players When you work FOR somebody thats something that you have no control over. Sure he could release him but he would still have to pay the guaranteed money in the contract and I am sure another team would be glad to pick him up. Someone made a decent point about piercings, though. Do it all in one complete sports tournament management system. if the owner is more concerned with the dress code than whether or not they have that particular talent then thats their problem. McDonalds can tell me pretty much the same thing. NFL players I actually dont mind this and agree with the sentiment. You guys side with the people in power on everything. But I would think, that if I am him, there will be another contract and I would not want to make the owner mad by defying him. What flies in NY or even the ATL may not work in the Charlotte market. Its none of his business. The guys is paying him millions of dollars to be the face of his franchise. Or says something stupid. Next in the list is the Egyptian King known as Mo Salah. The kids might like it but adults ie people with money were turned off. Its outrageous and racist and pretty damn normal. So save all the rediculous comments about athletes being slaves. Good keep it that way. That is total BS. Athletes are NOT slaves, as much as some like to say. He held up a photo of Steve Smith and said, Yeah, basically just dont be like this., Just take a look around the league If owners seriously considered only signing players who looked like choir boys they wouldnt even be able to field a team. But I do not like that this subconcious thought of Cam doing these things even seeped into Richardsons brain. Richardson is entitled to cut him, if he likes, but that would be contrary to his interests, if Newton is as good as Richardson thinks. As for Richardson not wanting Cam to get tats or piercings, its his team and he can request or demand how his players look on the field or in front of the press. Furthermore, check yourself in the mirror bro, for the way you embarrassed yourself and your franchise with your handling of preliminary CBA negotiations. @oldhamletman, than he has to put those rules in for everyone and not single people out. Thats what all you widget owners want, right? Its sad that so many companies feel the need to suppress individualism all in the name of capitalism. It may not be your choice, and it may not be the most courageous choice, but its a legitimate choice. Correct, no different, but still stupid. Tattoo or not. And to be honest, I seriously doubt many people care what you look like as long as you get the freakin job done. Football player Odell Beckham Jr is one of the most famous wearers of the mohawk burst fade, so take your cues from him if youre looking to try out this bold and attention-grabbing style. I get it. I know many companies you require that no tatoos or piercings be visible. If youre more concerned with your QBs looks than his dedication and hard-work, than that explains why you havent drafted a good one in as long as I can remember. The players are going to fill that lost in their new collective barging agreement. So I guess hed pass on Tom Brady because his hair is too long? In the wake of the Aaron Hernandez arrest, some eyebrows were raised at the news that authorities were scanning his vast array of tattoos for evidence of gang connections. They want the money too. On the other hand, if it doesnt interfere with your job function, its not in the bosss interest to lose talented employees because of the personal choices they make. The NBA is just now after 10 years starting to recover. Gareth Bale, however, admits to giving his dad a shock by once wearing magnetic earrings for a family dinner back home in Cardiff. I want the best image I can get for my product and that means different things for different places. Heck no. Do NFL players have to cover their tattoos? Translation: Dont want to scare white people. Speaking about his likes and dislikes, the Egyptian king said: I dont have tattoos, I dont change hairstyles, I dont know how to dance. George Steinbrenner had the same rule for Yankees players. There is a difference in telling players and asking players. I have also placed him on the mythical collegiate, Mt. Despite winning everything in his career, Robert Lewandowski chooses to be humble and refuses to wear any tattoo on his body. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. It is a joke people support such dumb rules to be enforced on someone. Fines? Here's hoping he never feels a need to wear long sleeves under his 49ers jersey to cover the tattoos. Why all the indignation because the owner wants the face of his franchise to be Wheaties cereal cover material? And uh, I am a Raider fan. Paul Pogba. If he doesnt have any at this age he probably doesnt want them, but its the principle. my 80+ yr old great uncle has a tat that says mom on his arm, does that make him a bad person? You should be able to suggest to the face of your franchise that he should keep it toned down and not get to wild in public. Its a business and some of those things do alienate fans which is alienating customers. Whats worse than Richardsons comments some of the idiotic defenses of it in this list of posts. Aug 24, 2011 5:45 AM Hes not. I see your point and its a good one. I bet Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning dont have any tattoos or piercings. Previous to this article, I was down on Cameron Newton. Find great deals on Mens Wide Dress Shoes at Kohl's today!. He hired a latino hc, drafted an african american QB, and steve smith adores him(and he hates everybody). And as for the senile comments, hes made more money than the Beatles selling burgers and biscuits. And the 29-year-old has an equally impressive tattoo collection to match his amazing hands and electric speed. EvalAngell 7 years ago #11 While I can't tell you which players don't have tattoos, I can tell you that offensive linemen always have the worst ones. Bottom line is Hes there to win games and win fans which equals more money for the franchise. Call it what you want. The Hip Hop culture cost the NBA a lot of money. He doesnt care about Shockeys appearance b/c Shockey isnt on sportscenter on a daily basis wearing a panthers jersey. As it turns out, its standard practice when potentially putting inmates with rival gang ties in the same jail space. Cam wanted the money that comes with being the #1 pick. While Cam is not a front office guy he is the CEO on the field. One guy I graduated from college learned this lesson the hard way. Russell Westbrook 10. Once Mike learned that he needed to put in the extra time he became a much more successful pro QB and not just a freakish hybrid RB. Probably not, but has anybody noticed their piercings or tats? - I dont see what the big deal is. Keyonta AlexanderHe is considered a great military leader and was if you read the question as stated, then the CLEAR answer should be NO. This is way different. An NFL owner can tell his employers whatever he wants. Most employers have some sort of dress code employees must stick to-even our military when it comes to tattoos and piercings. Your poll question says telling players which is a problem. I dont have any. I said, We want to keep it that way. . In fact, instead of having fancy tattoos, he decides to help humanity. That being said, I dont think tats/piercings are as big of a deal as JR thinks they are. I said, Do you have any tattoos? He grew up during WWII for crying out loud. I suppose the argument here though is he isolated Cam when others on the Panthers have tatts. As the face of the organization for (presumably, if everything goes well) the next 10+ years, if not for life, you want to roll out a conservative image. JR has the right to say he doesnt want a QB with tattoos and piercings. On the other hand Im a little disapointed in Cam. League may use police experts to check player tattoos There just arent that many supremely gifted athletes like Vick out there that can spend virtually no extra time on being a great QB. You meant isnt in the last sentence, phaktor. And the CBA limits the teams rules in this regard to reasonable rules about appearance. I think he is a control freak with some serious anger issues. So u really want to believe that a QB spends every waking moment studying game films? I wonder if he also told Newton to stay off his lawn. This is a discussion on CujoMatty Madden 20 Generic Tattoo Project within the Madden NFL Football PC forums. He should be able to get tattoos, I mean look at major superstar athletes with tattoos. I dont really like JR but it doesnt sound like he told Newton he isnt allowed to get tattoos or piercings, he was just letting him know he would prefer he doesnt. NFL Players He owns the team and has done nothing wrong in stating that to him. Every person (not just NFL player) should have the right to look, speak, and portray themselve the way they feel comfortable. Players have to cover tattoos and be well groomed. Come to think of it, Ive seen far more whites with tattoos and piercings falling off their bodies than I have blacks. Turning this into a race issue is completely absurd. If he doesnt have any at this age he probably doesnt want them, but its the principle. I have several tats that are in memory of loved ones who have diedas well as several others that have special meaning. it makes little sense why Richardson is saying no tattoos or piercings to one guy, but not to others, but oh well. If you work ANYPLACEyou have to follow rules. I have a problem with the fact that this was even a part of his thought process. NFL players without Tattoos Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. Richardson might as well have told Cam: If you ever feel slighted by me and want to piss me off, get yourself a tattoo.. Sounds negotiable to me. Carolina expects its players to look nice. Big diff to being the face of the franchise and being a backup linebacker.. Richardson has a reasonable point in this manner.. Newton will be the first face in all of the ads for the team and organization.. The poll results are sad. We wont allow an employee to enter a home with vivible tattoos or piercings. Nothing wrong with JR stating his preferences to kid that hes going to draft and pay to be the face of his franchise. you ppl mean nothing, could find a monkey to do your job. OMG It is up to them, however, I have higher opinions of players who choose not to get tattoos or piercings. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. As an owner of a business, I can dictate how I want my business to be presented to the buying public. NFL Denver Broncos. Richardson has every right to tell Newton not to get Tattoos or piercings. The notion that teams would try to make players into non-threatening billboards seems more than a little heavy-handed, even if its done in the name of growing the pie to the benefit of teams and players alike. By even asking this question of Cam, JR has now planted a seed in Cams mind that maybe he should ask JR before doing anything that Massa JR dont prefer. Richardson, while appearing to be draconian, is essentially correct. who careshe can run his business anyway he wantsthere are plenty of workplaces that dont allow tattoos or piercings. Nice Kicks Custom ShoesThe inaugural A Mile In Their Shoes And thats why theyre the Panthers. If teams want shrink the talent pool they pick from then all the power too them. Aug 24, 2011 9:30 AM Manchester Uniteds star midfielder, Paul Pogba refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. That may hold true for fans.